Certified Functional Diagnostic Practitioner and graduate of the Kalish Institute Christopher Kelly is our guest today in Episode 1002 of “The Livin’ La Vida Low-Carb Show.”
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Two years ago, Jimmy was dealing with borderline hemochromatosis and thus cut his red meat consumption, stopped using cast iron skillets, and gave blood every two months as a means for bringing this down. However, when he did some functional medicine tests in April with a Certified Functional Diagnostic Practitioner named Christopher Kelly from NourishBalanceThrive.com, what they found was quite disturbing–his blood iron levels were now extremely low to the level of iron deficiency anemia. To make sure it wasn’t a fluke reading, they tested again in May where it dropped even further. Listen to Jimmy’s original recording with Christopher Kelly in Episode 961.
JIMMY’S JOURNEY WITH FLUCTUATING IRON LEVELS
JIMMY’S PERISCOPE VIDEO FROM HIS LOCAL FARMER’S MARKET
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Jimmy appeared on the Nourish Balance Thrive Podcast in late July to discuss the changes to his diet and other lifestyle issues to shift from this very low iron level to more normal levels in just two months. The suspicion is it was the regular bloodletting that was the culprit in the precipitous drop in iron. Jimmy took several proactive steps to raise his iron, including eating red meat daily, taking an iron supplement, and ending his blood giving. All this increased his blood iron levels from 23 to 76 in May to June and then from 76 to the normal level of 122 in June to July. As you can see from the graph above, two years ago his iron was on the very high level which is why he took steps to reduce it. He did it a little too well. Listen in as Jimmy and Christopher discuss the changes made to Jimmy’s diet and other lifestyle factors to deal with his fat loss woes.
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May I suggest going back to the cast iron skillet for cooking, continuing the red meat (but not daily), and maybe discontinuing the iron supplements? Donate blood as you feel like it.
A hematologist can be found in the phone book.
Jimmy, I listened to the previous episode with Christopher Kelly and left a comment for that show. Basically I have a similar comment for you based on the results you mention during this podcast. I would suggest to you that if you put as much effort towards exercise as you do towards your diet that you would see the weight loss that you are are trying to achieve. You mention that you have been doing a lot of traveling lately, which to me seems like these are all excuses for not doing exercises on a routine basis. Maybe you should get a trainer to help you set up a program so you can start to get serious, instead of making excuses to yourself as to why you cant. Just my 2 cents.
HAHA! Cute. I love all the assumptions you make in your comment, Patrick. Sorry I don’t meet your lofty expectations buddy, but I’m doing what I need to do. Appreciate your input but I don’t need to be lectured my friend.
I have just been reading Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate living for the second time (to take better notes) and had just read in chapter 14, pages 182 to 184 about RBP4, an inflammatory adipokyne that responds well to low-carb.
This is just a guess, but maybe more vegetables could trigger that inflammation signal, leading to slightly higher blood sugar.
Also more plants probably means a little more omega-6 which could be balanced with more omega-3 foods.
I have been pondering this as well because despite being quite LCHFMP, my weight crept up a bit as well since last year.
I find it amazing that people are quick to
tell this man what to do. His help comes
from “WITHIN” God really has the power to help him. There may be a reason for this and in the end it may help so many of us.
Hi Jimmy,
I’ll give my suggestions from the perspective of an RN, certified diabetes educator.
Regarding the hemochromatosis, I think you just need to find the sweet spot for you. Ive worked with a lot of patients with this condition. I think there are more benefits to eating red meat than there are to avoiding it due to the iron content. Our patients gave blood and had iron levels checked every three months to check the levels. I would suggest getting your serum iron checked every three months rather than waiting 2 years between testing. I think this was your biggest mistake in the beginning since you were unable to catch the drop sooner.
As far as your morning sugar being elevated, there could be several factors. I think obviously adding more vegetables could contribute since these are carbohydrates. I think in many natural/holistic health circles, vegetables are extremely over encouraged for insulin resistant and diabetic people. I like that you continually say you are open to green leafies since you know these are lowest in carbs. However, I would suggest limiting vegetables and trying to get more of those micronutrients from animal sources (which I know you already do). Dr. Berstien describes the “chinese restaurant” effect where eating a large amount of low calorie food stretches the stomach which stimulates a cascade of hormones that raises insulin and subsequently blood sugar. The larger volume of food you’re eating in the form of vegetables may be causing this.
Another cause of the elevated morning sugars could be either the Somogyi effect or the dawn phenomenon. Have you ever checked your sugars in the middle of the night around 3-4am? If you go hypoglycemic during the night, you could be experiencing a rebound effect come morning (somogyi). Or possibly experiencing the natural rise in sugar as the body awakens (dawn Phenomenon).
Last, are you taking metformin? I know you’ve mentioned it before, but you didn’t mention in this episode if you were taking it. It could help increase insulin sensitivity. I am normally against using medication, but i think this one is really helpful if already on a low carb diet.
@patrick russell Exercise is completely overrated when it comes to weight loss and there isn’t a lot of evidence to support it. Although, the fitness industry would LOVE to make you think you need to hire a trainer and exercise on a program to be healthy. Its called marketing to make money.
Jimmy, in regards to your iron levels, I’ve had an interesting experience with high iron levels. Earlier this year I had my homocysteine level checked, and it was 13.3. I started taking a B-Complex pill, and after three months, my homocysteine level lowered to 9.8. However, my iron level, which was at 109 three months earlier, was now at 158. I googled high iron causes, and there is evidence that high intake of B6/B12 can cause high iron. I am now taking the B-Complex pill every other day, in the hope that my homocysteine remains somewhat lower and my iron level stabilizes.
Anyway, I hope this helps, and I hope you figure it out. Cheers!
I am just curious as to what your levels are/were on the other minerals that are required in the making of hemoglobin, like copper, zink, B12 and B6.
They’re all spectacular now.
Hi Jimmy, thanks for these podcasts they were very interesting. I just wanted to add that the high lactic acid levels could be due to berberine (not sure if you’re still taking it). This is because the berberine, like metformin, inhibits complex I of the electron transport chain. This is likely to be the mechanism of action by which berberine and metformin reduce glucose levels.
So berberine/metformin >> inhibit complex 1 >> higher AMP:ATP ratio >> increase glycolysis to compensate >> lower blood glucose
But, increase in glycolysis + reduced capacity of mitochondrial energy production >> higher lactic acid
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18285556
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17971514
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20577053
Not taking it regularly