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Welcome to Episode 71 of “The Livin’ La Vida Low-Carb Show with Jimmy Moore,” where we are excited to have the chance to bring you a world exclusive: the first and only live interview ever recorded with Kimmer, the creator of the ever-popular Kimkins diet.
Our host Jimmy and GNMHealth are very pleased to present to you the second installment of an in-depth five-part interview (totaling over an HOUR of raw interview time) where Kimmer answers EVERY single question that all of YOU submitted for Jimmy to ask her.
Whether you are a Kimmer Lover or a Kimmer Hater, you will find plenty to chew on here as she presents her vision of a healthy low-carb diet in her own voice.
A few of the topics covered in this episode:
Should pregnant women be on Kimkins?
Should a teenager go on Kimkins?
How many calories does Kimmer eat daily?
LINKS MENTIONED IN EPISODE 71
– Full listing of Kimmer interview questions
– Jimmy Moore’s Kimmer interview-Part 1
Again, a hearty THANKS to RightNOW at Low-Carb Friends who turns out to be fellow low-carb blogger PJ from “The Divine Low-Carb” blog for taking the time to type out a full transcript of this podcast episode, too. Click below and read it for yourself!
Transcript Of Episode 71
This is Episode 71 of the Living La Vida Low Carb show with Jimmy Moore. Thanks so much for coming back today for part two of my interview with Kimmer from the Kimkims diet. Today I have for you part 2 of my interview with Kimmer from Kimkins, and I do hope that you enjoy today’s broadcast. Part 1 was one of the all-time biggest show that we’ve had, it also generated quite a few responses in the show notes section so, if you have a response that you’d like to leave on any of these episodes of the interview with Kimmer, then please go to The Living Low Carb Show dot com. So without further delay let’s get into Part 2 of my interview with Kimmer from Kimkins.
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J: Alright well let me ask you cause I’ve seen it all over, some of the criticisms of you as well, and your diet plan (K: People are criticising me?!) — I can’t imagine that but yeah they are (laughs) (K: Gee I hadn’t heard [laughs]) — well the question is it’s basically a quote, they quote you, I’m not sure where they get this quote from but apparently it’s supposedly from somebody who wrote to you and I know you don’t ever get any email so its (K: I don’t, and, I’m looking for things to ___? [laughs]) well the email basically was somebody saying their weight loss has stalled, they’d been eating about four bites of chicken and a cup of coffee and what should they do, and supposedly you answered back, “Well you need to cut your calories even more,” and so address that if somebody –
K: That’s a complete lie.
J: Yes.
K: I never said that, I never received an email remotely like that, um, I can’t even justify that with an answer.
J: Well and I can appreciate that response, but that is the, I guess the ongoing saga that’s going on uh, is you see things just like that being posted, and nobody is challenging it so we’re hearing it from the horse’s mouth people, she said, it didn’t happen –
K: Well I think that they shouldn’t challenge it. If someone truly believes that I would say something like that,
J: Yeah?
K: Kimkins is not the right plan for them.
J: Right.
K: Move on down the road.
J: And that’s a good philosophy to have. Well let me go to — speaking of moving on down the road — let me go ahead and go to the next question, particularly we’re talking about fiber on a lowcarb diet, why do you count fiber, and aren’t you just reducing the amount of fiber people should be eating for a healthy diet?
K: Well, my answer to that is that, as I mentioned Kimkins is a compilation of Dr. Atkins’ original plan (J: uh huh), Dr. Atkins was a very smart man and his original plan did not subtract fiber. The 20 carbs he allowed already factored in the fiber content. The purpose of Kimkins is for very quick weight loss. You can take a fiber hit for a few months to get to goal. I mean if people can lose a hundred pounds in five months, you know you do take in some fiber, your body can take that. And some people want to take fiber supplements, the bulking type, and then they’re disappointed on the scale. Bulking, uh, products like psyllium, they work by absorbing fluid in the colon, and it backs up everything. They get very distressed about that, and we want people to lose weight and to continue moving on. But then I ask people how much fiber did they eat before they started the diet? (J: Yeah.) Look at the typical American diet. High fat, low fiber –
J: High carb
K: It’s not that much different.
J: Yeah.
K: The Fiber ___?, the Fiber, ah I’m sorry, the 5-10 fiber carbs from (Hell?) that someone might add from fiber is much less than the USDA recommendation of 30 grams anyway. But then the USDA food pyramid is based on heavy grains
J: I was gonna say we
K: …we see how well that works out.
J: I was gonna say we won’t go there (laughs) the food pyramid, I think all of us will agree, the food pyramid is bunk, whether you support Kimkins or not.
K: It is, it just, it just doesn’t work. It just doesn’t.
J: Well um. So tell us about what you eat now, how many calories, carbs, fat and protein do you eat to maintain your weight, and give us examples of some of the foods you eat on a regular typical menu.
K: OK. Well Jimmy you have to understand that I, I have the same challenges that our members do. I want the Enntemenn’s, I want Doritos, I like going to the mexican place with all this cheese on top of everything and the, the beans on the side, um, I can’t do that. (J: Right.) For one thing, I can’t handle very many carbs, and this is what Dr. Atkins talked about, that people who are overweight have a carb intolerance. That certainly seems to be me. But even more important psychologically, once I start on a no-no food, and that’s a Weight Watcher term by the way (J: yeah), um I, I can’t stop. And so what I do is I stay away from the foods that I can’t handle. And it took me many years to get to the point where I could do that. And, this is why I have so much patience with people who email me and say, I just can’t stay on track what do I do, I don’t say, well gee that’s your problem, that’s too bad. Um, I do offer them encouragement and to continue in their challenges, but I know firsthand how difficult that that is. What I do now is, I don’t use fitday very often, (fitday?) tracking, but I just stay within my modules, and what I do is follow the basic Kimkins diet of, uh the non-fatty protein, and all of my vegetables — I love vegetables — and then I add in my carbs, which um, come from various fruit and some higher carb veggies, um yogurt and a little bit of milk every day, I’m a milk nut. Um, luckily for me, I have no problem passing on pasta and bread and, and rice. Um, I do have a fondness for potatoes, once in awhile I do that, or corn but (????). Because I don’t wanna go down that slippery slope. I’ve been there many times.
J: Well um, just to make it real clear, about how many calories do you think that is?
K: When I checked it seemed to be between 1400 and 1700 a day (J: OK) which is, which is perfect for me, because I, I’m not an exerciser, I do the least amount that I can (J: {laughs}) um, and, and at my age we do lose 10% of our metabolism each decade after 40, and so I’m right on track, I think, I don’t put a whole lot of stock into, into um, the calorie counting, my carbs seem to be 80 to 100ish, sometimes I go over (J: really!), but then I balance that with, with my lower days.
J: Of course that’s true carbs, not net carbs, that’s actually fiber and everything you’re referring to with 80 to 100.
K: Oh yeah. I don’t do, you kn– even if I believed in net carbs, I don’t have the time (J: {laughs}), I’m not figuring, I’m not subtracting “1.2″ out of anything.
J: Well um, the next question that somebody had for you about Kimkins is, is it safe to do Kimkins when you’re pregnant?
K. Please don’t.
J: Please don’t. Can’t get much clearer than that. Please don’t.
K: I wasn’t speaking to you directly –
J: Well I was gonna say, I might decide to have a baby someday, but hopefully it’ll be Christine that’ll be pregnant not me –
K: That’ll be another show Jimmy –
J: Yeah we won’t go there Dr. Phil —
K: Um, no one has done studies on whether ketones are safe for a developing fetus, especially so tiny as the size of your fingernail, particularly for months at a time. I can’t even imagine looking for a pregnant woman willing to volunteer for that study. Now some will argue that our ancestors endured ketosis during times of famine, when there wasn’t much food, and that was true, but it was not continual months, it’s just not a good idea in my mind. Please don’t.
J: Can’t make it clearer than that. Well the next question talks about, and, and, of course you’ll be able to attest to this personally because you are doing it longterm, but somebody asked, Is the Kimkins diet, well first of all they asked is it good over the short amount of time to lose as much weight like you lost almost 200 lbs in less than a year, and, they asked if it’s safe to lose that much weight, I can answer that one for ya, I lost 180 pounds in 12 months, so I know it was a lot better for me to be 180 lbs less, after a year, it didn’t matter that I did it fast. What, you know, what do you say about the speed of the weight loss, isn’t it better to get thin and get out of danger, when it comes to your health, than it is to just remain at that big size — ?
K: Of course it is!
J: Of course! I mean that, that to me is a no-brainer.
K: What’s dangerous is staying obese and waking up tomorrow with Type II diabetes, or kidney disease, or high blood pressure.
J: Right.
K: This is why I love The Biggest Loser TV show.
J: Oh I love that show.
K: I don’t — ___ exercise, so it makes me a little bit nervous seeing all that activity. And what they show is under the supervision of trainers and physicians, these people are losing tremendous amounts every week.
J: Yeah, the guy –
K: My goodness if you lost 2 pounds a week you’d be voted off.
J: Yeah {laughs}
K: Um, there’s nothing dangerous about losing vast amounts of weight, what is dangerous is staying obese, developing conditions, not being around for your family, and
J: Right
K: Particularly for men who traditionally, don’t have as much diet experience as women, um, leaving families that need them. Or, moving on down the line and being a burden to your family, which no one wants to be.
J: No, and that was one of one of my impetuses for losing weight too was I didn’t want to be a burden and I wanted to be here a long time for my wife Christine and, and the rest of my family so it definitely makes a difference. Well, so transitioning with that question into the one I was originally gonna ask you, people wanna know, is the Kimkins diet safe to do over the long term, now you’ve been eating this way what, six or seven years now, and you seem to be doing well –
K: I haven’t died yet –
J: I was gonna say, if you’re speaking to me from the grave I’m in trouble
K: What you do is, you eliminate simple sugars, and that does include sweet fruit, we actually do eat fruit, and this was pointed out by one of our Kimkins vendors “Landy”, who pointed out that bell peppers are a fruit, zucchini are a fruit, um, any plant that produces a fruit, um, that’s a fruit. Um, we’re fond of course of the sweet fruits, but the sugar in sweet fruits is sugar, not any different than table sugar, you can pass on that for right now. But over the long term, you can factor back in small amounts of that but none of us can go back to what we used to eat, without going back to what we used to weigh.
J: That’s right. Well the next question that someone had for you Kimmer is, um, you do encourage a multi-vitamin with your Kimkins diet, but this tends to leave the door wide open for Omega 3 Essentially Fatty Acid deficiency. So how do people following Kimkins get these ah, essential Omega 3’s in their diet?
K: Ok well I recommend a high-potency multi-vitamin as a minimum. (J: Ok.) I’m not an expert on supplements, although I can have my own beliefs. But what I’ve noticed over the years is that some people figure if Kimmer says do XYZ, they’ll do twice as much. (J: Yeah.) With supplements, particularly the fat soluable types, this can be toxic. And that is why I shy away from making recommendations. We have many threads on the Kimkins site and I, I don’t post on them, I don’t say what I do, beyond Milk Thistle which I do take, and I just leave the good quality multi-vitamin as the minimum. Um, people are free to do their own research, and to add what they need, many members share with each other, about what they do, but I am, I am very cognizant of (___?) recommendation. And I stay away from supplements for that reason.
J: K, fair enough. The next question that one of my readers wrote to me was, do you have a medical disclaimer on your website, and this question was borne out of the concern that you are providing medical advice, and you’re not disclaiming that you’re not a licensed physician or able to practice medicine, so, do you have –
K: Well we have a medical disclaimer on the site (J: OK) if I had a dollar for every post, where I say, where I start a post saying, “I am not a doctor,” I am not a doctor, I am not a nurse, I have no medical training, I will not diagnose anyone over the phone, or over the website, or over PMs or naything else. Their best advice of course is their doctors… doctors maybe, maybe not, are clued in with lowcarb eating, but their best, their best source for advice is their doctor, especially if they have medical conditions, um, we state, quite, quite up front, if you have a kidney condition, please don’t do Kimkins, or any other lowcarb diet. Lowcarb doesn’t cause kidney problems, but if you do have kidney disease or kidney function problems, the kidneys cannot handle protein and lowcarb is not a good choice for you –
J: And, and that’s good to know that you make that abundantly clear to people right up front. Well speaking of doctors –
K: {laughs} No pregnant ladies, no kidney problems.
J: Yeah pregnant and kidney problems, don’t do the Kimkins.
K: I also turn teenagers away. (J: Oh really.) Only because — we have teenagers on site, but teenagers as I know first hand, tend to be extreme. If you say do A, they will do A times a hundred. And, with my experience with teenagers, I, I just don’t wanna do, to encourage them.
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