65: Alcohol Withdrawals, Adrenals, Eating To Satiety, Ketone Impact Of Extra Carbs or Protein, Defining The Body’s Preferred Fuel

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If you are interested in the low-carb, moderate protein, high-fat, ketogenic diet, then this is the podcast for you. We zero in exclusively on all the questions people have about how being in a state of nutritional ketosis and the effects it has on your health. There are a lot of myths about keto floating around out there and our two amazing cohosts are shooting them down one at a time. Keto Talk is cohosted by 10-year veteran health podcaster and international bestselling author Jimmy Moore from “Livin’ La Vida Low-Carb” and Arizona osteopath and certified bariatric physician Dr. Adam Nally from “Doc Muscles” who thoroughly share from their wealth of experience on the ketogenic lifestyle each and every Thursday. We love hearing from our fabulous Ketonian listeners with new questions–send an email to Jimmy at livinlowcarbman@charter.net. And if you’re not already subscribed to the podcast on iTunes and listened to the past episodes, then you can do that and leave a review HERE. Listen in today as Jimmy and Adam chew the fat on the low-carb, high-fat, ketogenic lifestyle in Episode 65.

Here’s what Jimmy and Adam talked about in Episode 65:

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– Does the ketogenic diet help smooth the withdrawals associated with transitioning away from alcohol? Can starting keto work if you’re drinking alcohol?

Hi Jimmy & Doc Muscles,

I’ve listened to your podcasts for years, Jimmy, and recently finished the Keto Clarity audiobook. I’m sold on keto. I’ve been eating this way for a little less than a week, my usual sugar cravings are completely gone, and I feel great. But I’m doing this all with my husband in mind as well. He has horrible neuropathy in his feet probably because of pre-diabetes. He’s always been a guy who was thin and never gained weight despite being a horrible eater. Here’s the deal—I think he’s probably gonna be very resistant to making any changes in his diet and lifestyle, but the hardest part for sure is that he self-medicates with wine at the end of the day. His feet hurt, he’s tired, and he uses the wine as pain management. He’s got a bona fide addiction to it and I’m wondering how the ketogenic diet and alcohol withdrawal symptoms play together if at all. Any tips on how to ease this transition? Finally, would eating keto actually help with the symptoms or does he need to be alcohol-free before beginning on nutritional ketosis?

Thank you for your help with this!

Beth

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1. Is a ketogenic diet taxing on the adrenals? Or can ketosis be beneficial in helping with irritability, fatigue, and sleeplessness?

Hey Jimmy and Dr. Nally!

I’m so in love with The Doc and your lighthearted, yet very informative podcast! I love it when you guys brainstorm and drop knowledge for all of us to use and apply to our lives. Thank you! I recently had some lab tests done to see why I’ve been so irritable lately. I become wired at 9PM even though I’m physically tired and need rest. I just can’t sleep and I’m dragging myself out of bed in the morning. I had a baby just over year ago and she keeps me awake taking care of her, too. Here are some of the key markers from my labs:

Cortisol AM =12.5
DHEAS = 301
Testosterone total = 45
Testosterone, free = 8.4

I am still breastfeeding and started keto one week ago dropping 11 pounds so far. My naturopath prescribed me a prescription of a very low dose diuretic to lower my testosterone as well as various vitamins and supplements. I’m worried that this may be the beginning of PCOS as a direct result of insulin resistance or even a weird case of adrenal fatigue since my numbers are reversed from what they used to be. Since I’ve heard keto can be taxing on the adrenals, should I continue on with my ketogenic approach? Or can ketosis actually be beneficial in some way for someone like me?

Thanks a million times over for your help,

Hot Headed Keto Mama Mandy

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2. What does it mean to “eat to satiety” on a ketogenic diet?

Hi Jimmy and The Doc,

I love your podcasts Keto Talk and Fasting Talk! Thank you for providing such a valuable service. I’ve read Keto Clarity and The Complete Guide To Fasting, but I don’t recall if this issue was specifically addressed: What exactly does it mean to “eat to satiety”? What does this actually look and feel like? I can’t really wrap my head around what you are saying by the phrase and would greatly appreciate it if you share more about this. I’m really looking forward to reading the book you guys are working on called The Keto Cure coming in September and I’ve already pre-ordered my copy.

Take care,

Meg

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3. What happens to ketone levels when you begin to consume more carbohydrates/protein than your body needs? Immediate or gradual drop in blood ketones?

Hey guys,

Thanks for the show! I listen during my runs and while strength training. Regarding the issue of too many carbs or too much protein, is the relationship between ketone levels and carbs a step function or a linear relationship? If I eat one gram too many of carbohydrates and/or protein, will that kick me out of ketosis completely or does it slowly drop depending on how much extra carbs and protein I eat? In other words, if my blood ketone levels were at 1.4 before eating an extra gram of carbs or protein than my body needs, does that immediately kick me out of ketosis or do ketones merely fall?

Thanks!

Steve

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– Why do low-carb, high-fat experts refer to carbs as the body’s preferred fuel source and ketones as an alternative fuel source? Isn’t excess glucose a toxin?

Hey Jimmy and The Doc,

I love the geek speak on Keto Talk and I can’t get enough of it. You guys do a wonderful job, so please keep it up. My question is about carbohydrate being referred to as the preferred energy source for the body. I hear this statement frequently and I even hear it from LCHF people/experts like yourselves saying that “carbs are the body’s preferred fuel source and fat/ketones are an alternative fuel source.”

People who say this use the logic that the body switches to using carbs first and therefore it must be “preferred.” When I read what happens when you ingest alcohol, the body shuts off/slows down fat and carb usage and switches to burning the alcohol. Alcohol is a toxin and it floats around in the blood and goes to organs including the brain which is why we feel drunk until the liver can detoxify it. So as an energy source it isn’t “preferred” but the preference for the body is to get rid of it.

Switching back to carbs/glucose which we know can be toxic at high doses and the pancreas has to pump out more insulin to prevent that from happening, by default the body converts any excess glucose into fats and stores them in the body. In my eyes, I see that as the same as alcohol and not as a “preferred energy source” but barely even an alternative energy source. Can you please clarify this for me?

Thank you for all you do,

Tom

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